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	<title>Comments on: Used and retro video game store opens its doors in San Francisco</title>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://infinitelives.net/2008/09/22/used-and-retro-video-game-store-opens-its-doors-in-san-francisco/#comment-2955</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still haven&#039;t had a chance to check this store out yet, but probably will make a trip out there this saturday. Yea, I enjoy actually browsing through physical copies of games. As long as the used games prices arent a total rip off, I am willing to pay slightly more than what gamestop sells games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still haven&#8217;t had a chance to check this store out yet, but probably will make a trip out there this saturday. Yea, I enjoy actually browsing through physical copies of games. As long as the used games prices arent a total rip off, I am willing to pay slightly more than what gamestop sells games.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenn Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 03:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty good. The owner is enthusiastic and knowledgeable (his face lit up when I bought a copy of Siren for PS2). Used game prices are pretty decent, and prices on new releases are competitive. There&#039;s no real reason to preorder on Amazon when you can walk right in and buy what you&#039;re looking for, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty good. The owner is enthusiastic and knowledgeable (his face lit up when I bought a copy of Siren for PS2). Used game prices are pretty decent, and prices on new releases are competitive. There&#8217;s no real reason to preorder on Amazon when you can walk right in and buy what you&#8217;re looking for, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://infinitelives.net/2008/09/22/used-and-retro-video-game-store-opens-its-doors-in-san-francisco/#comment-2528</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, thanks a lot. I was searching on every site possible to try to find a local games store in San Francisco that sold retro games and wasnt an evil gamestop/gamecrazy store.

I am a little late in finding this, but hopefully this place still is in business. I would love to be able to support a local games store.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, thanks a lot. I was searching on every site possible to try to find a local games store in San Francisco that sold retro games and wasnt an evil gamestop/gamecrazy store.</p>
<p>I am a little late in finding this, but hopefully this place still is in business. I would love to be able to support a local games store.</p>
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		<title>By: SeanaLyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>SeanaLyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>woah awesome! i definitely need to hit this place up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>woah awesome! i definitely need to hit this place up!</p>
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		<title>By: librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 03:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now to quote &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1043990&amp;postcount=3&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this dude&#039;s 2006 post&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;As far as I know there isn&#039;t a single independent game store in San Francisco proper. I would LOVE to be proven wrong, but I have yet to be able to find one. There is a place called Gamescape that is sometimes listed as one, but it&#039;s actually a &quot;game store&quot; that sells D&amp;D and stuff like that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Gamescape&lt;/em&gt;! That&#039;s the store that tricked me into walking into it! If you saw this Tomorrowland sign, you&#039;d do just the same.

&lt;img src=&quot;http://static.px.yelp.com/bphoto/YcORKx4QQpT4QnU6_vmRlg/l&quot; border=1 width=458 /&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;small&quot;&gt;do not be tricked&lt;/p&gt;

But it is right next door to a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.comixexperience.com/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;comics store&lt;/a&gt; that, despite the 1991 awning vibe, IS AMAZING:

&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.comixexperience.com/exteriorinterior/Comix%20Experience%20Outside.jpg&quot; border=1 width=458 /&gt;

Now, I was just explaining to KBsaurus the irony here. It isn&#039;t that I dislike tabletop games -- it&#039;s that I wasn&#039;t expecting Warhammer when I walked in. Conversely, I expected little from the nearby Comix Experience. But they had &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt; I was looking for! Including one copy of each volume of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurosagi_Corpse_Delivery_Service&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Kurosagi Corpse Delivery Service&lt;/a&gt; I needed to finish my collection (ahem). But seriously, that is a special-order type of item! Why do they even carry it? I&#039;ve never been so shocked in my life.

Moving right along. From the very same digitpress thread, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://retromap.net/&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Giant Retro Gaming Map&lt;/a&gt;!

Serious props, Kevin B. -- I am going to go register for their forums (finally). Thanks for sending me there! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now to quote <a  href="http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1043990&#038;postcount=3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">this dude&#8217;s 2006 post</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>As far as I know there isn&#8217;t a single independent game store in San Francisco proper. I would LOVE to be proven wrong, but I have yet to be able to find one. There is a place called Gamescape that is sometimes listed as one, but it&#8217;s actually a &#8220;game store&#8221; that sells D&#38;D and stuff like that.</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Gamescape</em>! That&#8217;s the store that tricked me into walking into it! If you saw this Tomorrowland sign, you&#8217;d do just the same.</p>
<p><img src="http://static.px.yelp.com/bphoto/YcORKx4QQpT4QnU6_vmRlg/l" border=1 width=458 /></p>
<p class="small">do not be tricked</p>
<p>But it is right next door to a <a  href="http://www.comixexperience.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">comics store</a> that, despite the 1991 awning vibe, IS AMAZING:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.comixexperience.com/exteriorinterior/Comix%20Experience%20Outside.jpg" border=1 width=458 /></p>
<p>Now, I was just explaining to KBsaurus the irony here. It isn&#8217;t that I dislike tabletop games&#8212;it&#8217;s that I wasn&#8217;t expecting Warhammer when I walked in. Conversely, I expected little from the nearby Comix Experience. But they had <em>everything</em> I was looking for! Including one copy of each volume of <a  href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurosagi_Corpse_Delivery_Service" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Kurosagi Corpse Delivery Service</a> I needed to finish my collection (ahem). But seriously, that is a special-order type of item! Why do they even carry it? I&#8217;ve never been so shocked in my life.</p>
<p>Moving right along. From the very same digitpress thread, the <a  href="http://retromap.net/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Giant Retro Gaming Map</a>!</p>
<p>Serious props, Kevin B.&#8212;I am going to go register for their forums (finally). Thanks for sending me there! <img src='http://infinitelives.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Bunch</title>
		<link>http://infinitelives.net/2008/09/22/used-and-retro-video-game-store-opens-its-doors-in-san-francisco/#comment-724</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Bunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m friends with the man who runs Digital Press, and to tell the truth, he says it&#039;s been good for his business to have the large chain stores around. The reason was simple: They were sending business his way for anything older than gamecube. Since he&#039;s got the only specialty store in the area, anyone who is looking for, or wants to trade in, anything retro will come to him. He sees enough trade-ins to make up for the fact his much more valuable stock (stuff like mario kart, punch out, earthbound, toejam and earl) gets replenished.

While he does do plenty of business with his newer games, his older stuff moves pretty well. Also, like the Chicago store, he supplements his income with a LAN gaming area, and arcade machines.

Good luck to Star Games! If I&#039;m ever in San Francisco, I will have to make the trip. I just saw a new game store in Detroit, right in midtown where the colleges are. Their selection was practically nonexistant, but I have high hopes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m friends with the man who runs Digital Press, and to tell the truth, he says it&#8217;s been good for his business to have the large chain stores around. The reason was simple: They were sending business his way for anything older than gamecube. Since he&#8217;s got the only specialty store in the area, anyone who is looking for, or wants to trade in, anything retro will come to him. He sees enough trade-ins to make up for the fact his much more valuable stock (stuff like mario kart, punch out, earthbound, toejam and earl) gets replenished.</p>
<p>While he does do plenty of business with his newer games, his older stuff moves pretty well. Also, like the Chicago store, he supplements his income with a LAN gaming area, and arcade machines.</p>
<p>Good luck to Star Games! If I&#8217;m ever in San Francisco, I will have to make the trip. I just saw a new game store in Detroit, right in midtown where the colleges are. Their selection was practically nonexistant, but I have high hopes.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 15:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF?!?!11!  I used to live TWO BLOCKS from Pink Godzilla, and I NEVER EVEN KNEW?!?!  This post makes me the saddest person on earth.

Yet, once I have a free day and a local ID bubble tea in my hand, I&#039;m SO THERE.  And this post will have made me the happiest person on earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF?!?<img src="hu11" alt="" />  I used to live TWO BLOCKS from Pink Godzilla, and I NEVER EVEN KNEW?<img src="?" alt="" />  This post makes me the saddest person on earth.</p>
<p>Yet, once I have a free day and a local ID bubble tea in my hand, I&#8217;m SO THERE.  And this post will have made me the happiest person on earth.</p>
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		<title>By: librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, &lt;em&gt;totally&lt;/em&gt;, totally. I remember when Whitney and Kirby Kerr opened Rotofugi in Chicago, it was precipitated by, &#039;We&#039;re collectors; there&#039;s no brick-and-mortar toy store here.&#039; So they opened, and of course, like everyone else, I showed up, I touched all the toys, and I kept saying to the owners, &quot;It is so exciting to see these art toys in real life, and actually pick them up!&quot; I wasn&#039;t the only person who was thrilled, apparently -- the owners told me that was exactly what &lt;em&gt;all&lt;/em&gt; their new customers were saying. Because we all were these collectors who were completely landlocked in the midwest, shopping mostly from online vendors, so none of us had ever had that sense of weight or scale when we made purchases.

But again, it comes back to that thing where you actually have to have interesting, real-life inventory to wow your customers and keep them coming back. And how, exactly, are you supposed to hang onto all your really good merchandise -- probably by marking the prices way up -- and still turn a profit, or for that matter, break even? But as soon as you sell all those holy grails in your inventory, poof, you&#039;re not competitive with GameStop anymore. What a harrowing, thin line to straddle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, <em>totally</em>, totally. I remember when Whitney and Kirby Kerr opened Rotofugi in Chicago, it was precipitated by, &#8216;We&#8217;re collectors; there&#8217;s no brick-and-mortar toy store here.&#8217; So they opened, and of course, like everyone else, I showed up, I touched all the toys, and I kept saying to the owners, &#8220;It is so exciting to see these art toys in real life, and actually pick them up!&#8221; I wasn&#8217;t the only person who was thrilled, apparently&#8212;the owners told me that was exactly what <em>all</em> their new customers were saying. Because we all were these collectors who were completely landlocked in the midwest, shopping mostly from online vendors, so none of us had ever had that sense of weight or scale when we made purchases.</p>
<p>But again, it comes back to that thing where you actually have to have interesting, real-life inventory to wow your customers and keep them coming back. And how, exactly, are you supposed to hang onto all your really good merchandise&#8212;probably by marking the prices way up&#8212;and still turn a profit, or for that matter, break even? But as soon as you sell all those holy grails in your inventory, poof, you&#8217;re not competitive with GameStop anymore. What a harrowing, thin line to straddle.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Popular</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Popular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 06:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I hear you. I was thinking about opening a retail store in the Mission as well, but the prices are just too freaking ridiculous. I was thinking the bulk of my sales would be online, but I would work inside the store and take custom orders from walk-ins (the store was going to be a crafts and messenger bags).

I&#039;ve always dug specialty game shops Video Games New York and AfterShock in Madison. Even though I could order online, I always made it a point to visit these shops whenever in town so I could actually experience the tech before I bought it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I hear you. I was thinking about opening a retail store in the Mission as well, but the prices are just too freaking ridiculous. I was thinking the bulk of my sales would be online, but I would work inside the store and take custom orders from walk-ins (the store was going to be a crafts and messenger bags).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always dug specialty game shops Video Games New York and AfterShock in Madison. Even though I could order online, I always made it a point to visit these shops whenever in town so I could actually experience the tech before I bought it.</p>
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		<title>By: librarian</title>
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		<dc:creator>librarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 05:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a total bummer. 

In my limited experience -- and by that I mean only that I&#039;ve observed plenty of friends succeed and fail -- a brick-and-mortar specialty store, no matter its location, benefits from supplemental online sales, just so long as the online inventory is very deliberately limited without being crippled. Like, you want your local, real-world customers get first dibs on new items or things in extremely limited release.

Now I&#039;m going to contradict myself: in the case of Threadless, the Chicago-based collective had, in addition to their online retail store, a supersecret location in Ravenswood where you could show up and buy things only if you were in-the-know. So in that regard, it was like the brick-and-mortar location was the &#039;supplemental&#039; business. It wasn&#039;t until 2007 that they opened a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.threadless.com/retail&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;real&#039; store&lt;/a&gt; -- by that time, they&#039;d established plenty of brand recognition, and they &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; actually swing having a retail location.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a total bummer. </p>
<p>In my limited experience&#8212;and by that I mean only that I&#8217;ve observed plenty of friends succeed and fail&#8212;a brick-and-mortar specialty store, no matter its location, benefits from supplemental online sales, just so long as the online inventory is very deliberately limited without being crippled. Like, you want your local, real-world customers get first dibs on new items or things in extremely limited release.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m going to contradict myself: in the case of Threadless, the Chicago-based collective had, in addition to their online retail store, a supersecret location in Ravenswood where you could show up and buy things only if you were in-the-know. So in that regard, it was like the brick-and-mortar location was the &#8216;supplemental&#8217; business. It wasn&#8217;t until 2007 that they opened a <a  href="http://www.threadless.com/retail" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">&#8216;real&#8217; store</a>&#8212;by that time, they&#8217;d established plenty of brand recognition, and they <em>could</em> actually swing having a retail location.</p>
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		<title>By: Doctor Popular</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doctor Popular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 05:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the heads up. We do have a lack of specialty game stores in the city, so I&#039;m looking forward to checking this place out. 
A friend of mine was playing around with opening a store calle Super Gun in the Mission, but I think he&#039;s decided to avoid brick and mortar and only open online. Bummer.
I&#039;m going to try checking out Star Games soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the heads up. We do have a lack of specialty game stores in the city, so I&#8217;m looking forward to checking this place out. <br />
A friend of mine was playing around with opening a store calle Super Gun in the Mission, but I think he&#8217;s decided to avoid brick and mortar and only open online. Bummer.<br />
I&#8217;m going to try checking out Star Games soon.</p>
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